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Wednesday, August 11, 2021

THE HIDDEN FUSE BOX

 Most know that the Roadtrek fuse box containing the fuses and circuit breakers for the Roadtrek RV appliances and components is on the wall of the Roadtrek next to the passenger side door into the Roadtrek. This is where you will find the main 30 amp circuit breaker for the coach, the breakers for various other 110/120 volt electrical components like the air conditioner, the television, etc.. Also in this box on the wall are all of the fuses for the 12volt components  of the Roadtrek such as the hot water heater, the furnace, the water pump, the lights, etc..  In the photo below it is the large black panel below the generator switch, the hot water heater switch and the monitor panel with the battery disconnect switch, the test switch, and the water pump switch.  You open this panel by pulling up on indentation in the center, pulling toward you and out.  On the back of that panel is a diagram that shows what circuit breaker and which fuse goes to what. (Some Roadtreks do not have that diagram. It is in the manuals of some Roadtreks and apparently in most recent Chevy Roadtreks it was not put into the manuals (why is a good question).)

That box contains everything for the Roadtrek part of the van. Nothing in this box is connected to anything in the Chevy part of the van. 

There are two fuse boxes that have the fuses for the Chevy. One is in the engine compartment. The second fuse box is hidden. The hidden fuse box is under the driver's seat. If this were just a Chevy Express van it would not be hard to find and get to that fuse box, but when Roadtrek removed the stock Chevy seats, installed swivel mechanisms under them to allow them to swivel around to be lounge seats for the Roadtrek, and then put in Roadtrek's own front passenger and driver's seat, accessing the hidden fuse box becomes a mystery. Like some other parts of the Roadtrek it is a puzzle that is a challenge to solve. 

We have solved that puzzle for you and will give you the steps for you, too, to be able to get to and into that hidden fuse box.  Some Roadtrek manuals will tell you that to get to the fuse box all you have to do is turn the driver's seat counterclockwise. That sounds very simple, but it is not quite that simple. 

HOW TO GET TO THE HIDDEN FUSE BOX:

1) Put the back of the driver's seat straight up. Pull the large handle on the right side of the bottom of the seat. 

2) Remove or move anything you might have behind the seat. In the "Popular" models of the Chevy Roadtrek  there is a wardrobe cabinet right behind the driver's seat that is fairly close to the back of the driver's seat. We keep a small folding table behind the seat and I removed that before I did the following steps. The "Versatile" models of the Chevy Roadtrek have a seat behind the driver's seat. If there is nothing on the floor between that seat and the driver's seat, then you should not have anything to remove or move.

3) Using the bar below the front of the seat cushion, move the seat about half way back on the slide so that it is in the position the seat is in the photo below. You can be sitting in the driver's seat of you can be standing outside the open driver's door, just pull up on that bar and slide the seat to where it needs to be. 

4)  Look again at the photo above.  Leave the armrest down. The black handle in the center below the side of the seat facing you looking from the open door inside is the handle that swivels the seat. This handle is on a spring and also is connected to a latch that locks the seat in place so that it will not swivel while you are driving. With one hand or two, pull that handle UP. You will hear the latch unlatch and you will be able to now swivel the seat COUNTERCLOCKWISE -  do that the front of the seat comes toward you.  If it gets stuck on the curtains that hang down from behind the door post, just move the curtains.  Below you see the front of  seat facing you! 




5) In the photo above you can see the slide handle for the seat right below the seat cushion. With one hand pull that handle up and with the other hand push the seat back as far as it goes on its slide. Let go of the handle and the seat locks into that position.  If you look to the left on the floor at the black box on the floor - YOU HAVE REVEALED THE HIDDEN FUSE BOX!

6) The box cover has two clips that keep it closed. They are on the sides at the top - on facing the driver's door and the other facing the passenger side.  Reach in under the seat and  feel for them. It is a simple move and release clip. They are hard to see and it was not possible to photograph them in place. Release each clip and the cover will come right off. Putting it back on is just as easy. line up the edge of the cover with the front of the box and put it on top and it just gently pushes down and clips into place.

 

7) The photo above is the extent of what you can see in the hidden fuse box. You pretty much have to reach in from the open driver's door getting your head and eyes around to see the inside of the fuse box from the floor below the steering wheel.  It is far from convenient and very awkward.  There is some reaching and eye straining to see and get the the fuses further back in the box. The Chevy Express owners manual will identify what each of the fuses in the box are. There is NO chart on the cover of the box.  There are also no labels other than the amps on each fuse. These are "MINI FUSES". There are also what the manual calls "J CASE FUSES". These are You should be able to find them in any auto parts store. These are smaller than the fuses that are in the "Roadtrek side" fuse box. There are also 6 relays and 2 circuit breakers. One of the circuit breakers is for the power seats and the other circuit breaker is for the power windows. Some fuse spaces are left empty.  

8) To put it all back together again just reverse the steps.  Use the slide handle to pull the seat back to where you started in Step 3. When the set is swiveled it will continue to swivel until it is facing front to the steering wheel again. To do that all you have to do is swivel the seat back to the front without pulling up on the swivel handle again. The seat will lock in facing the steering wheel. Move the seat forward or back to where you like it when you drive. That is it!

If you do not have a Chevy Express Manual for your year Chevy Express van - and remember that the Chevy Express is not always the same year as your Roadtrek is, so you go by the Chevy year and not the Roadtrek year as far as the Chevy Express manual is - there are a several websites that have manuals for all cars and vans of various years and they will let you download the manual for free. It is a good idea if you only have a downloaded manual to put the PDF file for the manual in your smart phone or other device you have with you on trips. 

So now you too can find the hidden fuse box and get to it whenever you need it. Let's hope you never have to get to it. 😃

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8 comments:

  1. Always great info.
    Couple of comments - I use Mitchell DIY online repair - about $45 for 3 yrs of access. I'm not affiliated with them. Benefit is that you can access shop repair and wiring info anywhere you have internet access.
    Pull the cover of the underhood fusebox once in a while and use compressed air to blow grit out of it.
    While you're fiddling with the front seat check that the power feed to the macerator pump button and the feed to the seat lumbar support (if equipped) hasn't been caught and smashed under the seat floor mount rail from careless seat installation. Ours had the lumbar power feed squashed. This can easily cause a fire if the wire insulation eventually wears through and the 12v+ wire starts arcing on the grounded support. It's just sitting in flammable carpet material.

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  2. Thank you for another great article
    2015 popular 190

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  3. I have a 2005 Versatile 210 with another fuse box under the hood. Fuses include cigarette lighter. Haven't looked under driver's seat yet.
    Ron

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    1. Things change a lot from year to year and model to model. 2005 is significant in the changes as it is the first year that Roadtrek started using a three in one inverter/converter/charger. The box under the seat is not the only fuse box Chevy related - and of course, there is the Roadtrek fuse/circuit breaker panel for the RV side.

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  4. Hi there.
    Im trying to find the fuse for the marker lights on the roof. Any idea where it would be and if so what is it labeled as on the panel?

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    1. The roof lights - front and back are a Roadtrek add on - these are not from Chevy. The fuses are in the Roadtrek fuse/circuit breaker box at the top of the wall next to the side door. The fuse for the front roof lights is the bottom fuse #12 in my 11C190P. The fuse for the rear roof lights is fuse #10 - which also includes the "porch" light. Other years and models may be different but it will be in the Roadtrek fuse/circuit breaker box.

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  5. My sound system both car sound and stereo system doesn’t work. Could a blown fuse be located in the box under the seat? All the various modes operate except sound.

    I have checked both other boxes under hood and door entrance.

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    1. Take a look in that fuse box. There is a chart on the top of the lid that labels which fuse is what. Many dash radios have a tube fuse in a holder on the power cable to the radio - and if your radio has this that is something else to check HOWEVER - this means removing the dash and the dashboard is VERY fragile - both in taking it out and putting it back in. If the dash cracks you are going to have bigger problems. The dash is held in with special clips (which is typical of Chevy) that require a special tool to release them. You might be best to take the RT to a stereo shop and have them remove the dash and find the fuse if you don't find one in the box under the driver's seat. The radio fuse WILL NOT be in the fuse/breaker box on the wall of the RT. That is strictly for RT appliances and wiring.

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